tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post53344960363719724..comments2023-04-03T10:03:36.735-05:00Comments on The Flame of Arnor: Star Wars…You asked for itAncient Greek Philosopherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04724031158703499554noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-37297764861121520622009-03-27T14:07:00.000-05:002009-03-27T14:07:00.000-05:00No, you pick one. I don't really want to have a d...No, you pick one. I don't really want to have a discussion with myself, do I?Old Fashioned Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139437884293877190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-83101943403232286402009-03-26T22:50:00.000-05:002009-03-26T22:50:00.000-05:00Ha ha. Pick one.Ha ha. Pick one.Ancient Greek Philosopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04724031158703499554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-82366710324248652792009-03-26T08:37:00.000-05:002009-03-26T08:37:00.000-05:00In layman's language, that means we can discuss1. ...In layman's language, that means we can discuss<BR/><BR/>1. My evidence<BR/>2. My reasoning<BR/>3. The consequences<BR/>4. Reasons against my evidence or thesis.<BR/>5. My (excellent hee hee :) writing style.Old Fashioned Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139437884293877190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-39888779668712928322009-03-26T08:36:00.000-05:002009-03-26T08:36:00.000-05:00We could discuss:1. The truth of any premise.2. ...We could discuss:<BR/><BR/>1. The truth of any premise.<BR/>2. The validity of any inference from the premise(s).<BR/>3. The implications of the premises and/or conclusions.<BR/>4. Objections to my premises or conclusions.<BR/>5. My (excellent hee hee :) writing style.Old Fashioned Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139437884293877190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-56267763451405185972009-03-25T22:15:00.000-05:002009-03-25T22:15:00.000-05:00Um, could you point them out?Um, could you point them out?Ancient Greek Philosopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04724031158703499554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-73303998302199141172009-03-25T09:37:00.000-05:002009-03-25T09:37:00.000-05:00Any other thoughts on this post? There's a lot mo...Any other thoughts on this post? There's a lot more to it besides passions and absence thereof.Old Fashioned Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139437884293877190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-77884320935726928332009-03-24T14:42:00.000-05:002009-03-24T14:42:00.000-05:00Makes sense.Makes sense.Ancient Greek Philosopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04724031158703499554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-7007633425730814942009-03-24T14:26:00.000-05:002009-03-24T14:26:00.000-05:00Hence, since the passions are neither good nor evi...Hence, since the passions are neither good nor evil and because God gave them to us, passionlessness is not something worth seeking and Star Wars is at fault.Old Fashioned Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139437884293877190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-19860291477942352312009-03-24T14:25:00.000-05:002009-03-24T14:25:00.000-05:00The passions, for our purposes, equal emotions, de...The passions, for our purposes, equal emotions, desires, etc. And I partly agree with Estrellita, that they can be good or bad. But I would deny that hate, anger, sadness, are bad passions. Rather, they are proper responses to certain things, such as evil. (P.S. Hate here is understood as the emotion of hate, not the act of the will that constitutes mortal sin whenever it is indulged in.)Old Fashioned Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139437884293877190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-32125823206163979152009-03-24T10:42:00.000-05:002009-03-24T10:42:00.000-05:00In denying passion, Buddists would deny good passi...In denying passion, Buddists would deny good passions like love and joy. I think that passions can lead you to both, depending on the passion. But what's more important is the will. Choices are what really define the path in life, not passions.Estrellita Lenorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06567842535606041463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-27862230963191073372009-03-24T10:17:00.000-05:002009-03-24T10:17:00.000-05:00What exactly are you considering as passion here? ...What exactly are you considering as passion here? I know that trusting your feelings leads only to whatever you feel, which is a point against the force.Ancient Greek Philosopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04724031158703499554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-78542650381763695092009-03-24T08:53:00.000-05:002009-03-24T08:53:00.000-05:00You were supposed to answer my question, AGP (or w...You were supposed to answer my question, AGP (or whoever felt like it.) But since you didn't, I'll answer it myself, then pose a new question for you to answer. <BR/><BR/>The difference between the two is that the reporter denies passion because it is in conflict with another quality that it is more important for him to have, the quality of objectivity. Buddhists, Jedi, and the "He" in #3deny passion just because it is passion and supposedly passion leads to "The Dark side."<BR/><BR/>Now, does passion lead to evil? Does passion lead to good? Does it do both?Old Fashioned Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139437884293877190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-19838747461928900192009-03-23T09:27:00.000-05:002009-03-23T09:27:00.000-05:00Good question about the passions. Here's the firs...Good question about the passions. Here's the first step in finding the answer. Consider these two statements:<BR/><BR/>1. The news report was completely passionless.<BR/><BR/>2. He is completely passionless.<BR/><BR/>#1 is a compliment, I think, while #2 is not obviously so. What is different about the two statements that accounts for this difference in how we evaluate them?Old Fashioned Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139437884293877190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-57325612294614391212009-03-22T21:49:00.000-05:002009-03-22T21:49:00.000-05:00And are you saying that it's good or bad to be pas...And are you saying that it's good or bad to be passionless?Ancient Greek Philosopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04724031158703499554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6785811735401156306.post-83898583874394693102009-03-22T17:19:00.000-05:002009-03-22T17:19:00.000-05:00I REALLY like your description of the force. I nev...I REALLY like your description of the force. I never really paid attention to the treatment of "the good side", because it is woefully lacking in so much. However, I think that the portrayal of the dark side is an excelent comparasion to evil in our present lives; save for Obi-wan's quote maybe (I guess I didn't catch that).Ancient Greek Philosopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04724031158703499554noreply@blogger.com